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    Quote Originally Posted by foo View Post
    If that's what they actually did, then there'd be much less complaining. But incompetence to get and maintain a job goes pretty much hand in hand with incompetent and unable to raise their own damn kids.
    I can't believe you said Ann Romney is too incompetent to get and maintain a job.

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    She worked for RIAA? That explains why she's such a nazi.
    oh yeah. She had a heavy hand in the destruction of Napster. She's no stranger to Washington.

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    I agree that her statement was correct and that it was a perfectly acceptable thing to point in the context of things. I don't hate stay-at-home mothers, even the millionaire kind, but they shouldn't be held up as knowing something about what the regular people go through every day. That said, Michelle Obama isn't all that different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcr View Post
    So, I have no problem saying that stay at home moms who have never held a job are a problem. Sure, before the kids reach 7 or 8, they are a lot of work and having 1 parent stay at home does mean work. But once they enter school, a stay at home mom / dad is really just being a lazy fuck.
    Yeah cause once the kids are in school a stay at home oes nothing but it on the couch and watch tv. :rolleyes:


    In a long line of ignorant statements from you, this one is a top ten contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Yeah cause once the kids are in school a stay at home oes nothing but it on the couch and watch tv. :rolleyes:


    In a long line of ignorant statements from you, this one is a top ten contender.
    You forgot the "eating bon-bons"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    I agree that her statement was correct and that it was a perfectly acceptable thing to point in the context of things. I don't hate stay-at-home mothers, even the millionaire kind, but they shouldn't be held up as knowing something about what the regular people go through every day. That said, Michelle Obama isn't all that different.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpin View Post
    How so?
    I just mean that she hasn't led a particularly difficult life. She hasn't exactly had to worry about whether her kids were going to have food or clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    I just mean that she hasn't led a particularly difficult life. She hasn't exactly had to worry about whether her kids were going to have food or clothes.
    Not true. http://uselessjunk.net/showthread.ph...o-buy-this-LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Yeah cause once the kids are in school a stay at home oes nothing but it on the couch and watch tv. :rolleyes:


    In a long line of ignorant statements from you, this one is a top ten contender.
    LOL, I have a wife, I have kids. I took a year off after I sold my last company, so I know the drill too. My statement is accurate. Once the kids are in school, being a "stay at home" anything is NOT even remotely the amount of work as a regular job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcr View Post
    LOL, I have a wife, I have kids. I took a year off after I sold my last company, so I know the drill too. My statement is accurate. Once the kids are in school, being a "stay at home" anything is NOT even remotely the amount of work as a regular job.
    My wife is a "stay at home" mom. She gets up at 5:30 every morning to go for a run until 6:30. After a quick shower, she gets the kids up at 6:45. The next hour and fifteen minutes is controlled chaos. The kids go to school at 8:00. After dropping them off, she returns home and cleans up from the tornado that is called getting ready for school. At 9:30 she returns to school where she is a "room mom" helping the teacher with students that need extra attention. At noon she leaves there and usually heads to one of 3 non profits whose boards she sits on. If she doesnt need to go to one of those she heads home to handle laundry, finishing cleaning, prepping for dinner, gardening/flowers etc. She's there until 3:00 at which time she returns to school to pick up the kids. By 3:30 or so she's back home and starts in on homework. The standard rule from school is 5 minutes of work per year of age. That means the 12 year old has 60 minutes, the 9 year old has 45 and the 6 year old has 30. All told thats 2 hours and 15 minutes of homework help. In between all of that she's finishing up things like laundry, cleaning and dinner. After dinner, we either all head to the gym for an hours workout with the kids or sit down with them to play a game/watch TV etc. By the time we get home/done its usually about 8:30. The 6 year old heads to bed and the others have another 90 minutes to themselves. During that 90 minutes she and I have time to ourselves. Around 10 she and the girls usually head off to bed to start the process all over again.

    You tell her she doesn't work and she will kick your teeth in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    My wife is a "stay at home" mom. She gets up at 5:30 every morning to go for a run until 6:30. After a quick shower, she gets the kids up at 6:45. The next hour and fifteen minutes is controlled chaos. The kids go to school at 8:00. After dropping them off, she returns home and cleans up from the tornado that is called getting ready for school. At 9:30 she returns to school where she is a "room mom" helping the teacher with students that need extra attention. At noon she leaves there and usually heads to one of 3 non profits whose boards she sits on. If she doesnt need to go to one of those she heads home to handle laundry, finishing cleaning, prepping for dinner, gardening/flowers etc. She's there until 3:00 at which time she returns to school to pick up the kids. By 3:30 or so she's back home and starts in on homework. The standard rule from school is 5 minutes of work per year of age. That means the 12 year old has 60 minutes, the 9 year old has 45 and the 6 year old has 30. All told thats 2 hours and 15 minutes of homework help. In between all of that she's finishing up things like laundry, cleaning and dinner. After dinner, we either all head to the gym for an hours workout with the kids or sit down with them to play a game/watch TV etc. By the time we get home/done its usually about 8:30. The 6 year old heads to bed and the others have another 90 minutes to themselves. During that 90 minutes she and I have time to ourselves. Around 10 she and the girls usually head off to bed to start the process all over again.

    You tell her she doesn't work and she will kick your teeth in.
    What's her W2 look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    My wife is a "stay at home" mom. She gets up at 5:30 every morning to go for a run until 6:30. After a quick shower, she gets the kids up at 6:45. The next hour and fifteen minutes is controlled chaos. The kids go to school at 8:00. After dropping them off, she returns home and cleans up from the tornado that is called getting ready for school. At 9:30 she returns to school where she is a "room mom" helping the teacher with students that need extra attention. At noon she leaves there and usually heads to one of 3 non profits whose boards she sits on. If she doesnt need to go to one of those she heads home to handle laundry, finishing cleaning, prepping for dinner, gardening/flowers etc. She's there until 3:00 at which time she returns to school to pick up the kids. By 3:30 or so she's back home and starts in on homework. The standard rule from school is 5 minutes of work per year of age. That means the 12 year old has 60 minutes, the 9 year old has 45 and the 6 year old has 30. All told thats 2 hours and 15 minutes of homework help. In between all of that she's finishing up things like laundry, cleaning and dinner. After dinner, we either all head to the gym for an hours workout with the kids or sit down with them to play a game/watch TV etc. By the time we get home/done its usually about 8:30. The 6 year old heads to bed and the others have another 90 minutes to themselves. During that 90 minutes she and I have time to ourselves. Around 10 she and the girls usually head off to bed to start the process all over again.

    You tell her she doesn't work and she will kick your teeth in.
    So "stay at home" means "work a coupla part time jobs"? Albeit easy and unpaid.

    Even so, that little list isn't as hard as a real 9-5, unless you have a really menial job. Even giving her bonus points for presumably gritting her teeth once in a while for a conjugal, sounds like she's having a fairly relaxed time of it. There's simply a big difference between doing chores and optional activities in your own time at your own pace, with breaks for whatever you want, and working with professional obligations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBullDog View Post
    What's her W2 look like?
    Irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    So "stay at home" means "work a coupla part time jobs"? Albeit easy and unpaid.

    Even so, that little list isn't as hard as a real 9-5, unless you have a really menial job. Even giving her bonus points for presumably gritting her teeth once in a while for a conjugal, sounds like she's having a fairly relaxed time of it. There's simply a big difference between doing chores and optional activities in your own time at your own pace, with breaks for whatever you want, and working with professional obligations.
    How so? Does it require more effort to be forced to work as compared to choosing to stay busy? Do self employed women who work on their own schedule with breaks whenever they want also not work hard enough for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Irrelevant
    uh-huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    How so? Does it require more effort to be forced to work as compared to choosing to stay busy? Do self employed women who work on their own schedule with breaks whenever they want also not work hard enough for you?
    Self employed people who don't work hard don't make money. And yes, it does require more effort to have a job than to not have a job, however the stay at home bunch choose to fill their days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    Self employed people who don't work hard don't make money. And yes, it does require more effort to have a job than to not have a job, however the stay at home bunch choose to fill their days.
    Bullshit. I know plenty of self employed people that do almost nothing every day and yet make a very good living. They are owners of multiple businesses, have excellent portfolios and wise investors. Furthermore, a job is a job is a job. Just because someone gets paid for it does not mean that it is any harder than any other job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Bullshit. I know plenty of self employed people that do almost nothing every day and yet make a very good living. They are owners of multiple businesses, have excellent portfolios and wise investors. Furthermore, a job is a job is a job. Just because someone gets paid for it does not mean that it is any harder than any other job.
    I know self employed people that do very little. I don't know any who got to that enviable state of affairs by doing very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    I know self employed people that do very little. I don't know any who got to that enviable state of affairs by doing very little.
    Are you suggesting that a stay at home mother did not work hard to get to that point?

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    I dream of someday being a stay-at-home dad.

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