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    Quote Originally Posted by biker View Post
    To be completely honest, I often wonder how working class families make it. Gas prices have more than doubled since Obama took office and with that, the prices of necessities has soared. I feel for these folks.

    The last thing we need is to have two classes; a well off class and an underclass that struggles every day.
    show me a republican that cares about the middle class.


    price correction from bush's last year in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudmuck View Post
    show me a republican that cares about the middle class. price correction from bush's last year in office.
    They ALL care, when they're running for office. Once elected, not so much. This goes for all politicians pretty much.

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    I don't see why everyone doesn't just work harder. Has anyone mentioned that yet?

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    So how is this not a direct reflection on presbo and his shitty policies? Fucking moron OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudmuck View Post
    show me a republican that cares about the middle class.
    I've noticed that Dems are all about the "middle class" nowadays. I guess they figure they have had the poor dependent on govt for 3-4 generations now, so it's time to start shackling the rest of us. Makings the middle class dependent on govt isn't helping them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward28 View Post
    I don't see why everyone doesn't just work harder. Has anyone mentioned that yet?
    its about smarter, not harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcr View Post
    It takes more education, effort and intellect than ever before. The days of a high school diploma and some OJT meaning middle class are gone forever. Hate it if you like, but globalization and technology have made this a fact.

    This is not a new phenomena, either. It has happened many times through human history where technology and exploration destroy a way of life .. only to make life better for us all. Everyone should be teaching this to their kids, yet instead many cry that it is the big evil corporations that are screwing people.

    People are also responsible for their own situation. The people who simply have a GED and cannot find a job are as ridiculous as the people with a PhD in 17th century french literature and cannot find a job. You made your choices, now live with the consequences. Particularly when there are so many high paying jobs out there. We cannot find or hire people fast enough in the technology sector. A kid right out of any generic college can get $45K / year and there is no top end .. earn as much as the value you create. Gain skills in data science and analysis along with the tech behind it, people will be throwing offers from $150K - $250 K at you.
    The formula for success is easier said than done, of course.....but it is easy to say. And it all starts with the word you used above: effort.

    I can't tell you how many unemployed folks I run across who believe they've made a "strong effort" simply by submitting a resume to a website.

    And for those employed and living paycheck to paycheck, many simply don't want to put forth the required effort to improve their situation.

    As has been mentioned throughout this thread, certainly decision-making skills are important as well. But I've found it ultimately boils down to effort. Even those who don't have the intellectual pedigree can overcome that with effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaTideFan View Post
    I've noticed that Dems are all about the "middle class" nowadays. I guess they figure they have had the poor dependent on govt for 3-4 generations now, so it's time to start shackling the rest of us. Makings the middle class dependent on govt isn't helping them.
    Yep. And now with a cabal of Washington elites, agribusinesses, and hi-tech business, it's no longer just the poor taking it in the ass from massive illegal immigration. Wages are being driven downward in Silicon Valley, too. Ever wonder why your Messiah makes so many fundraising trips to the left coast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    The formula for success is easier said than done, of course.....but it is easy to say. And it all starts with the word you used above: effort.

    I can't tell you how many unemployed folks I run across who believe they've made a "strong effort" simply by submitting a resume to a website.

    And for those employed and living paycheck to paycheck, many simply don't want to put forth the required effort to improve their situation.

    As has been mentioned throughout this thread, certainly decision-making skills are important as well. But I've found it ultimately boils down to effort. Even those who don't have the intellectual pedigree can overcome that with effort.
    I agree with about 80% of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcr View Post
    its about smarter, not harder
    Not always. Working harder is a problem or the younger generation. There was a time when there wasn't "jobs Americans won't do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaTideFan View Post
    Not always. Working harder is a problem or the younger generation. There was a time when there wasn't "jobs Americans won't do".
    Remember when kids used to deliver your newspaper and collect for it weekly?
    Remember when teenagers were the ones working fast food, not 20 - 40 YO black people and retirees.
    Remember when kids were the ones you paid to mow your lawns, not messicans.
    Remember when teens and college kids were the ones stocking the shelves in the department and grocery stores, not 30 - 40 YO losers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustCuz View Post
    Remember when kids used to deliver your newspaper and collect for it weekly? Remember when teenagers were the ones working fast food, not 20 - 40 YO black people and retirees. Remember when kids were the ones you paid to mow your lawns, not messicans. Remember when teens and college kids were the ones stocking the shelves in the department and grocery stores, not 30 - 40 YO losers?
    I remember doing ALL of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSchmertz View Post
    I remember doing ALL of that.
    might be time for you to get a real job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who View Post
    might be time for you to get a real job
    You unzipped your fly, parasite. Sniveling about a lack of disposable income whilst spending a week a month here paints quite the picture of industriousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    The formula for success is easier said than done, of course.....but it is easy to say. And it all starts with the word you used above: effort.

    I can't tell you how many unemployed folks I run across who believe they've made a "strong effort" simply by submitting a resume to a website.

    And for those employed and living paycheck to paycheck, many simply don't want to put forth the required effort to improve their situation.

    As has been mentioned throughout this thread, certainly decision-making skills are important as well. But I've found it ultimately boils down to effort. Even those who don't have the intellectual pedigree can overcome that with effort.
    As is typical in the free market, people rise to the level of their value. Effort is definitely a big piece of that value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSchmertz View Post
    They ALL care, when they're running for office. Once elected, not so much. This goes for all politicians pretty much.
    Thats probably mostly true, but you only need to look so far as who's being labelled a socialist by the far right, and you might find somebody there that cares about regular folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudmuck View Post
    Thats probably mostly true, but you only need to look so far as who's being labelled a socialist by the far right, and you might find somebody there that cares about regular folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    Nearly all Americans have too expensive a vehicle, too big a house, too much bling, take too long and expensive vacations and in general pretend they can play the same revenue vs. expenses game they see the governments playing.
    this thread should have ended after this post.... the second one on page one.

    poor people should not have data plans and 300 tv stations to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker View Post
    Wow. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudmuck View Post
    Thats probably mostly true, but you only need to look so far as who's being labelled a socialist by the far right, and you might find somebody there that cares about regular folks.
    scratch the veneer and underneath you find somebody who never read Animal Farm.

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